Members of the Commission on Improving Relations Among ISU Students, the University, the City of Ames and the Ames Community mulled over their written recommendations Monday night, revising them to be clear, concise and pragmatic.

Ten members of the commission worked out some of the kinks in their recommendations draft to ensure their work doesn’t fizzle out once it is presented.

“Looking at this group and how we had all of this ambition, I don’t want to see this kind of peter out and only have a carcass,” said Ann Campbell, former Ames city councilwoman.

The commission’s findings are due in a report to ISU President Gregory Geoffroy on Nov. 30.

One of the ways commission members said the community can help resolve some of the issues it faces is by strengthening the communication between the City Council, university administration and ISU student government. Commission members propose an annual “summit” to provide an opportunity for these community leaders to make and continue progress in the area of community relations.

“In concept, the summit may be a remedy,” said Chuck Cychosz, Ames Police Department support services manager.

ISU Police Capt. Gene Deisinger voiced his dismay with the draft’s wording when the commission discussed how to strengthen communication between students and long-term residents.

“I’m concerned that to a segment of students that they will feel it’s only their problem,” Deisinger said. He said the repetitious use of the word “students” puts all responsibility on the students.

Bob Kindred, Ames assistant city manager and commission co-chairman, said a re-examination of the perception of student contribution to the city is needed because most see the benefits in monetary terms.

“That’s so narrow-minded,” Kindred said.

Patrick Hultman, graduate student in political science, said some drastic measures may have to be taken to solve these problems.

“I think you knock on doors, and you don’t stop until you reach all 5,000 doors of the new residents,” Hultman said.

Hultman also said alcohol should not be a focal point for the commission.

“I’m disappointed that alcohol is even a part of this discussion,” Hultman said. “Lots of kids get drunk and don’t do anything.”

Drew Larson, senior in accounting, thought neighborhood peers should take a more proactive role in controlling community disturbances. He said people should advise their neighbors to “tone it down a little” if a party gets out of hand.

Commission members said they look forward to hearing from the community in the two open forums taking place this week at 7 p.m. Tuesday in the Council Chambers of City Hall, 515 Clark Ave., and at 11 a.m. Thursday in the Pioneer Room of the Memorial Union.